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Will it be safe to assume that one would NOT have to use Linux and still move along with the project ? I have Ubuntu installed on a Laptop and Eagle Software, but.....
Gary W4GNS
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W4GNS wrote:
Will it be safe to assume that one would NOT have to use Linux and still move along with the project ?Gary W4GNS
Yes, but the instructions in the QQ articles will reference Linux Mint and associated Linux versions of software.
Most instructions will also work using Windows, but there may be slight differences. - Diz
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Diz,
I would like to keep XP on my desktop and the desktop PC is the only I have that has all the hardware requirements you have cited. For now, I would like to either boot XP or Linux at start-up. Maybe Santa will bring me a new box to load Linux onto and be a strictly linux box
Will the Mint 7 gloria allow for dual-boot options?
oo's.......Mikey
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I started downloading Mint 7 Gloria from the cited ftp site in QQ...but that link is really slow (~22KB/sec). I then looked around and found this one: ftp://linuxfreedom.com/linuxmint/linuxm … Mint-7.iso
It is downloading at about 290KB/sec instead of the QQ cited location. It has the same MD5 checksum value.
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wb8icn wrote:
Diz,
Will the Mint 7 gloria allow for dual-boot options?
oo's.......Mikey
YES
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wb8icn wrote:
I started downloading Mint 7 Gloria from the cited ftp site in QQ...but that link is really slow (~22KB/sec). I then looked around and found this one: ftp://linuxfreedom.com/linuxmint/linuxm … Mint-7.iso
It is downloading at about 290KB/sec instead of the QQ cited location. It has the same MD5 checksum value.
I have about 10 copies of MINT-7 on CDs. Will ship a CD, (includes shipping) for $4 USA and $6 DX
-Diz
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Have LINUX Mint 7 loaded on my laptop as a embedded app within windows. I have tried to install it the same way to three other boxes, but no luck. Also just tried to install it...but the monitor just goes black after awhile depending on what I am doing and can never get any video back after that.
I may try to load up Ubuntu (sp???) and see what happens...can't hurt.
Any suggestions are always welcome!
Mikey, WB8ICN
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Hi Mikey,
I read the word "windows" in your last post. Not a good thing ![]()
Also, desktops usually use more generic hardware than laptops.
If your video is acting up after the install, then 1 or 2 or 3...
1. There is no direct video driver for your laptop
2. The video driver is proprietary and you need to activate it from toolbar at the bottom of your screen (usually a green icon of a PCB)
3. Need a new appliance operator (seek piggie help)
What happens when you just use the LIVE CD? does it work?
I have found that doing a pure Mint only install on a PC is the best thing
oo - Diz
PS...may need a phone call
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The embedded install is a hack that was developed with Ubuntu. What it does is to create a large empty file on the windows machine which is then used as Linux partition. The Linux disk driver then opens the windows file (either NTFS or VFAT) and formats the space as an EXT3 file system and Linux is installed there. There is also a Lilo or Grub bootloader that appears as a windows application to start Linux. Linux doesn't actually run under Windows, once Linux is running Windows is 'sleeping', although when you shut down Linux the machine will shut down through Windows. Just a cleaver hack to avoid having to repartition the disk. However since the Linux file system is now living inside of a Windows file, there is the extra overhead of the NTFS or VFAT filesystem on top of the EXT3 filesystem overhead so disk access is slower.
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My Mint 7 install on the laptop (Vostro 1700) thru Windoze works, both liveCD and as a 15GB install for dual-boot. The CD used for that install was tried on three other boxes and I can't install it for a dual-boot system. Two boxes were Win 2000 and one was XP Pro. The XP Pro box will allow the CD to be used as a LiveCD though. I thought it was a monitor problem and have swapped monitors around (tried three so far. The monitors all work with windows 2000 and XP Pro and also for the LiveCD on the XP Pro box. I would expect it all three would work for the dual-boot laptop as well...so have ruled out monitors. I have also tried two boxes (old pentiums, 400 MHz and 800Mhz) doing a pure Linux install (Mint 7 and Ubuntu 8.04) and they did not work either...but both of those systems have maybe 128MB of RAM at best.
My guess is unless you have at least 256 MB of RAM installed...none of these large ISO distro installs will work. I may try a Debian using either the Net Install or Credit Card Install to see for sure...if it works, then I can add packages as the need arises. I am not looking for lightening fast system, but one that does run Linux for playing and experimenting with for right now.
Mikey
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yea...we are not married to Linux Mint or Ubuntu...but it's my only reference if something breaks.
OK...I'm going to turn on my skype shortly...need to reinstall it top my PC
My id is w8diz_
note the underscore
oo - Diz
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while looking into Linuxmint I see where mint13 "Maya" is available. I have win xp for os. When I clean installed back whenever I probably should have created a partition for the future-like for now. Still could dual boot- (didn't fall into place for me while attempting to add an additional partition)(I'm only so savvy) so I will give Linux a home of it's own, as you suggested earlier. I think it will avoid many future complications for me. Would a external HD be an acceptable method?
Will Rogers' once said, "We are all ignorant, just in different ways."
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Answer to my own question-after reading some, it looks as if storage is what they are best suited for (external hd). I had forgotten that putting in a second, internal hd, doesn't require a lot of effort. Tho once before, the second hd I had purchased was too much for my mother board to read, I think. Or it only read a small portion. None the less, I wasn't aware that usb limits the external hd's speed. In the meantime, I must keep my main goal in mind, as I kick around tangents. And that is...
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MINT13 is the current version...I like the MATE sub-version over CINNAMON
-Diz
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I think I will be upgrading my shack computer to mint13 KDE, it's now running mint9 gnome. (Both of these are LTS editions). I have a machine at work using Mint12 KDE with Cario-Dock to give it a Mac look. Works very well!
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hello Diz. Happy to have a fresh computer working. I installed "Maya" along side win7 os. Wasn't the option install I was after, but the one I ended up with. Just after I hit the button... Anyway, it's working fine. Knew zilch. Know his brother now. I got U1 "learned" on Express PCB (SCH). Checking into AVRISP MKii now. Matter of purchasing it, then I will get back on a roll. It was fun exploring and learning the Express software. Started out slow, but soon got the hang of it - to a point. Learning Linux Mint 13 is going to be the bonus. It's worth the intrusion to my brain, (tho causes some headache at times). Thanks for the instructions from your articles. Shawnr kf7yff. 73
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Hello "Shawnr kf7yff",
Happy you found something to occupy the brain ![]()
Learning something new can be a very economical experience,
especially when the final products are free like free software.
An idle brain dies a slow death.
-Diz (trying to engage brain and wake up)
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I'm now running Mint 13 KDE. The Gnome folks have shot themselves in the foot (or the ass, actually) as far as I'm concerned. KDE is looking good these days (even Linus has converted back). One thing I did though was to move the 'panel' to the top of the screen and install cairo-dock to give my desktop a 'Mac' look. Mint 14 is now out, but I think I'll stick with the LTS release for now.
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The Linux Mint 13 MATE edition is what I use...it is like the old Gnome version 2
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