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Do not forget to review the addendum for the project at http://w8diz.com/qq-fc-project/
73, DIz, W8DIZ
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I hate to say this, but if you are looking to build a frequency counter with a micro controller a PIC makes a better choice than an AVR. The timer/counter units inside some PIC's have a max count frequency as high as 50mhz. The best that the AVR is going to do is about the same as the micro's clock frequency (or LESS). This sets the AVR limit to somewhere between 8 and 20 mhz.
For about every other application, I think the AVR is a better choice due to GCC support, cheap JTAG ice (AVR Dragon), and open source tools.
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wa2me wrote:
I hate to say this, but if you are looking to build a frequency counter with a micro controller a PIC makes a better choice than an AVR. The timer/counter units inside some PIC's have a max count frequency as high as 50mhz. The best that the AVR is going to do is about the same as the micro's clock frequency (or LESS). This sets the AVR limit to somewhere between 8 and 20 mhz.
Hey Ken, why is your ID WA2ME and not WA2MZE but I digress ![]()
The QQFC project will make sense when/if you read the article in the Fall Issue of the qrpARCI QQ magazine, due out any day now.
We are taking an electronics project from design platform (Linux), thru design, thru schematic, thru prototyping, thru PCB and finally thru ASM code.
A step by step set of articles for those not afraid to get their feet wet. We're even going to make an LED blink!!!
73, Diz, W8DIZ
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What?
Just a blinking led? No "hello world"?
How do I get a copy of the magazine? It sounds like something a builder would like to read.
Leonard
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kc0wox wrote:
How do I get a copy of the magazine? It sounds like something a builder would like to read.
Hi Leonard. Go to http://qrparci.org and join and they will send you the magazine.
-Diz
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W8DIZ wrote:
Hey Ken, why is your ID WA2ME and not WA2MZE but I digress
W8DIZ
I never noticed that typo! Yuck, how to fix it?
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I'm looking forward to your article, Diz. It's going to be an honor to have my first QQ article in the same issue as your neat series.
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I'm now signed up for the magazine. I may not build but I will be following along. Right now, I don't need a new project.
Leonard
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OT, but I just got MPLAB to install and run under WINE. So it looks like I can now play with both PIC's
and AVR's.
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Hi Gang,
The Frequency Counter Kit for the QQ FC Project is now available at http://kitsandparts.com/freqctr.php
Documentation on the kit is on the kitsandparts.com website under TOOLKITS.
Kit includes all parts including pre-programmed ATtiny2313-20 CPUs
The LCD is an optional item available from Mouser or kitsandparts.
I will stock about 20 pieces of the LCDs for those that do not want to order from Mouser but my prices will be slightly higher.
I'll have both BACKLIT and non-BACKLIT versions, all are 16x2 characters.
73, Diz, W8DIZ
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Must be a hidden link...don't see the link for the kit Diz....
Mikey
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Diz,
This is on the web site " Freq Counter Display - available Jan 2010" but there is no link embedded in it.
Mikey
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Read my post again...
"I will be documenting the kit on my kitsandparts.com website under TOOLKITS'
Note the word WILL
Aint had time yet...still futzin with other details like burning fuse bits for the ATtiny2313
Just got that to work so now I'm pre-programming 20 chips
I decided to keep the kit to one only CPU chip.(edit...kit will have 2 ATmel CPUs)
If you want more, you can buy them ![]()
-Diz
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Oh...I saw (read) the part about kits being available " The Frequency Counter Kit for the QQ FC Project is now available. ", so thought they were available...sorry.
Ready for this...I have lined up on the bench several dev platforms:
BASIC STAMP
PICAXE
AVR (from several years ago)
AVR Butterfly/Arduino from Nuts & Volts
SX - somewhat put together but still messing with what to put on the breadboard.
PIC-EL II
This might be the time to lay off RF and go digital for awhile...LOL
Mikey
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Shawn, how much current does the FC draw using correct polarity power?
Which CPU did you install that could possibly be damaged?
Might switch it with the other CPU.
The LCD can very easily get damaged if reverse polarity hoits it.
73, Diz, W8DIZ
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Hello Diz. I'm back. Suspended my troubleshooting on my freq.C., took to the side to study, and acquired a call sign. KF7YFF. (Let's see if that helps:). Prior- I pulled a reverse polarity stunt. I replaced the lcd, to eleminate that possiblity of damage. Now, forgeting the past, I checked my 5vdc. (5.09). It appears good around the board-except... U1--pin 16, good. But soon after initial start-up, I read the same voltage on pins 1,2,12,13,14,15. Pin 7 = 4.49 vdc. Can I consider it shot? U3 leaves me in question also. Before I loose myself in futher process...Could I, should I buy replacements? I know this project will take me far, providing first I get past my mistakes.
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Hello Shawn, ...might be easiest to fix you FC problem if you let me take a look at it. I can replace the CPU, if faulty. - Diz
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I'll get it in the mail your way. Greatfully indebted to you, Shawn.
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Hello Shawn, - I received the FC on Sat Sept 1st. Fixed it today, Sept 2nd.
All 3 ICs were bad. Also the 2 protection diodes were shorted; replaced those.
Also replace the 10 ohm 1/2 watt with a 1/8th watt.
FC functions fine now...lucky the LCD was OK.
Will ship it back to you on Tuesday.
73, Diz, W8DIZ
PS: You should use the color RED for the positive power lead, not BLACK.
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Hi Diz. Yes, it was a bad fumble on my part. Thank you, for another chance with it. Your'e a scholar and a gentleman. At the very least, a good hearted ham. You certainly have all my respect! Loads for me to learn. I'll focus on the proper practice, with the greatest of appreciation towards a final end. I mean to return the favor. Onward Ho! Take care, 73, Shawn KF7YFF
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Hello Diz. Thank-you for restoring my FC back to working order. (received it today). What can I pay you for your time and parts? 73, Shawn. KF7YFF
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shawnr wrote:
Hello Diz. Thank-you for restoring my FC back to working order. (received it today). What can I pay you for your time and parts? 73, Shawn. KF7YFF
Buy me a beer if/when I see you, and I ain't leavin Florida
- Diz
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Hi Gang,
I just completer building the FC. It went together very easily but on firing it up the display comes on, beautiful green, but no frequency. If I understand correctly the default should have it measuring up to 36Mhz with a 8Hz resolution, without having to do anything other that just the normal build. I have gone back and checked out my build and everything seems right, no reversed polarity, cold solder joints, etc..
Does anyone have an idea about what is going on!
tia for any info!!
cu es 72, Bart W0IIT
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W0IIT wrote:
Hi Gang,
I just completer building the FC. It went together very easily but on firing it up the display comes on, beautiful green, but no frequency. If I understand correctly the default should have it measuring up to 36Mhz with a 8Hz resolution, without having to do anything other that just the normal build. I have gone back and checked out my build and everything seems right, no reversed polarity, cold solder joints, etc..
Does anyone have an idea about what is going on!
tia for any info!!
cu es 72, Bart W0IIT
Bart, did you adjust the contrast control so the digits show up?
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Mikey, So good to hear from you!!!! Been a long while since we visited. I keep hoping that you will make it to OzarkCon one of these days!! Thanks for your reply. I have not adjusted the display. Is there a operation note or anything like that? I will adjust the output and see if the digits will display!! tnx agn and good to hear from you!! 72, Bart--Pittsburg, KS
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